guy discovers empiricism, calls it a personality trait

Someone having a very normal, very mid conversation about dealing with tangible reality instead of getting lost in the news cycle. Starts with some vaguely philosophical stuff about evidence and what's 'before my eyes,' then immediately pivots to commiserating with people about news overload like they're a life coach at a networking event. Ends with mutual yeah-yeah-yeahing that suggests absolutely nothing was resolved.
Vibe: podcast host doing a therapy bit but making it somehow more boring
Key topics: news overload, dealing with reality, evidence, suffering people
Transcript:
Deal with the things that I can understand, you know, in front of me, the evidence that's before my eyes, that kind of thing. I've been trying to talk to a lot of people who are kind of suffering with news overload about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, people do.